YALD (Yep, Another Linux Distribution) 86
Evgeny Zemlerub wrote in
about eIT's easyLinux®
which sports a complete GUI-based installation; automatic
hardware-detection; NLS (National Language Support);
claims easy choice of VGA-Card and monitor adjustment;
KDE support; Registry support, etc. They still need to finish
translating their web-site though...
A sample Registry key for the curious (Score:1)
Here is the key:
MyKey1;MySubKey1;texting123;domidi;/home/jeremy
Here is what the values correspond to (as per regedit):
Key: MyKey1
SubKey: MySuibKey1
Value: texting123
Path:
Execute: domidi
%C(creator?): generated with regedit
Looks interesting enough to me...but I can't seem to make out exactly WHAT it is used for %-/
(Also note that 'Execute' seems to be independant of 'Path', it seems to always search ~/.register/bin for the 'execute'able)
A sample Registry key for the curious (Score:1)
I got that from using the source of course! I downloaded it, built it (with some mild frustration...it pays to read the instructions and change the Makefile to match your system
It's interesting, it builds the CLI and X11 versions and a libreg.so so that one can write programs that use it's registry services. It really looks as though it was made to take advantage of KDE, though I'm sure GNOME could easily use it, should the developers feel the need.(1)
Some more info...
It also creates ~/.register containing
registry -- a plain text file
bin -- a directory
icons -- a directory
Neither directory contains anything, though.
The install also creates
1) I personally don't use either one, so it is of little consequence to me.
And in 3 years everyone has to pay to Troll TEch.. (Score:1)
Well, the guys did say that they welcome anyone who wants to (re)write it to link to an alternative library...
This seems to be a "cobwebsite" (Score:1)
So thankfully it looks like we'll never see this disastrous distribution.
I would like to see a distribution with some of those ideas, though. New distributions aren't a bad thing if you can install
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Could not find ANYTHING worthwhile on the FTP site (Score:1)
Don't that have to make it avaliable for download?
Their 'eregistry' program is GPL, acoording to the readme in the tarball.
If the source to their installer is available... (Score:1)
Boycott this distro if they won't release sources (Score:1)
It looks like a windows install, it has a "registry" and they want you to PAY to debug it for them. This looks like one of many people that want to take Linux, make money from it and contribute nothing back.
If I am wrong with what I think I am reading, flame away. But if this is the way these people want to do business with OUR OS, I think we should squash them now. No matter how "pretty" their install program is, it isn't worth having people out there doing Linux business this way.
yeeeeeggg... (Score:1)
Hmmm. I take it you haven't seen a recent xscreensaver [jwz.org] release? Amongst other things, it comes with bsod, which is a rather fantastic emulation of the fabled um, BSOD. It's got Windows, Amiga, Mac modes, and so on -- groovy.
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W.A.S.T.E.
registry (Score:1)
This is quite convenient, since I don't have to meddle with config files and startup scripts everytime I want to change a little setting.
Regards, Jochen
Didn't redhat used to have a X based install? (Score:1)
RegFS (Score:1)
(ok, ok, that's not exactly what you meant. But all my config files can be found under
Daniel
the "UnLinux" (Score:1)
The problem is that distributions like this further move away from the common form of Linux. It is as if they are trying to create another OS. For example, do these people believe free software authors will depend on that registry for their programs? Or they will rather support Red Hat and SUSE rather than this strange distribution?
Probably most people will stay away from this distribution.
what about a ~/etc/ ? (Score:1)
Those icons sure do look familiar. (Score:1)
full spectrum is good (Score:1)
I like these guys with their new distribution. They are trying to cater to the Windows crowd, which is a Good Thing (tm) in my book. Their goods do look frighteningly like Windoze, but you can easily forgive them when you remember, "Hey, that's their audience." The folk behind easyLinux really seem to get it, even if their English could use some work.
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They need someone with a better grasp of English. (Score:1)
From the looks of things, they aren't very concerned with things like the "Linux community". I see no words regarding licensing, or history. I don't expect that this will go very far, but I wish them luck.
--Lenny
GUI = Graphic or Text? (Score:1)
From my point of view, terminal based installs have nothing but advantages over graphical GUIs. They're fast, they're fail safe, they're compatible. Oh, they are indeed less pretty, but nobody, not even end users would complain about that if they got a possibility to use it.
ILLEGAL! (Score:1)
This can only be good... (Score:1)
Most people who use Linux for the first time mainly want to use the internet ( reasonable, that's also where they'll get their best information regarding Linux ). Debian 2.0 nicely sets up your PPP connection for you, but other parts of the install are quite daunting for the raw newbie.
A distribuition that installs PPP like Debian, sets up video/X like RedHat, and has a nice, easy to follow config tool like SuSE's Yast would ( I'm sure ) find a fast following.
My $.02
Redistribution of Qt (Score:1)
Contarary to popular belief, Troll Tech is not made up of a bunch of ruthless Bill Gates wannabes.
noah
A sample Registry key for the curious (Score:1)
I'd like to point out it appears they want all apps to switch to using the "Registry." Here we go, fix it all up for the "Gee, it's not like MS" NT users. Damnit. This will either fall flat on it's face, or take my affordable UNIX-like system away. Personally, I don't like this. Not because it's easy, but because it BREAKS STANDARDS. I'm all for the easy part.
I just wish people didn't think Windows and easy as synonymous.
some folks complain too much... (Score:1)
Whoa! (Score:1)
Registry/Package System (Score:1)
I'm really wondering about their packaging system. I wish the website said if they're using RPM or some new nonstandard system. Something nonstandard would suck major ass.
Easy installer (Score:1)
* Did they pay Troll Tech for the right to distribute Qt (which is required for KDE)? If not this could turn ugly very quickly.
* What's wrong with an easy installation? Do not come down on people if they have a "windows-like" installation -- you have Slackware if you want to do it non-graphically and have a lot of choice. Remember, variety doesn't just apply to installation procedures, it applies to Linux distributions and (gasp) people too.
Give these guys a fuckin break.
Still too techy. (Score:1)
I think their interface approach is a nice one, but it looks to me like it will still only address the technical market of people who know what video chipset they have and why they're partitioning drives in the first place. Seems more an equivalent to the pretty GUI installer Solaris has these days. Still no substitute for knowing some pretty gritty hardware details.
No, to have a consumer, home-user Linux installer, this has to become a wizard that walks you through everything, with nice blobby general options and sensible defaults based on the hardware autodetection. These choices and options and the notion of "total control" have to be hidden behind an "Advanced Settings" button.
Fact is, in today's world of gigantic drives, you can come up with one fixed scheme per, say, each popular drive size, that will leave 99% of consumers perfectly happy. Requiring people to think hard about mount points is a nice educational goal, but not a battle that should be fought as part of a user's first 10 minutes of the Linux experience.
I'm sure all the major non-techie distribs will soon have something that combines this kind of Qt or GTK+ GUI with some soothing consumer-oriented wizards as a "novice" install otipon soon enough.
Red Hat Install Routines (Score:1)
Nick
LSG
EXACTLY! Why didn't someone do this before? (Score:1)
now won't want this.
But I know a LOT of people who
would think about trying this
who cursed Linux as a tool of
the devil.
(Hey--in their defense--it does have daemons)
This just opens Linux up to a
whole new market of people.
That is always good.
I know I would have moved to
Linux a lot sooner if there
was something like this when
I was first looking at it.
~enucite~
If the source to their installer is available... (Score:1)
BTW there's links to RH rpm's on the kde.org site for whoever wants to try it.
-=nft=-
I see one MAJOR problem... (Score:1)
easy Linux (Score:1)
full spectrum is good (Score:1)
Just from the screenshot (which isn't a very fair method to judge something like this), I'd say it doesn't do much more than the GNOME or KDE control-centers already do.
registry is a good thing (Score:1)
For every unix box I log in on at work, my environment reflects my preferences. On NT my environment reflects the preferences of whoever uses the box the most, so basically I can't use any NT box but the one on my desk.
registry is a good thing (Score:1)
That's exactly the problem. My Unix settings port with no effort, my Windows settings have to be set up anew on each machine.
what about a ~/etc/ ? (Score:1)
If the source to their installer is available... (Score:1)
And what is wrong with the price? Last I checked you could get the whole distribution free off your local mirror.
Write your own distribution challange (Score:1)
Sure (Score:1)
Oh yeah, cost (Score:1)
Problems with the registry (Score:1)
Why not an X install (Score:1)
the "UnLinux" (Score:1)
How does it take away any flexibility? What's stopping your from uninstalling KDE and installing GNOME, for instance? And how many other distributions "support" other programs? None, as far as I know...
I think what they mean by "hiding the command line" is that it will start up in X, instead of starting in console mode. Of course, anyone with a bit of smarts/experience can just edit the /etc/inittab!
Turning Linux into a "Windows Clone", as you call it, is NOT necessarily bad! Is hardware auto-detection bad? RedHat's installer practically does that already!
If you don't like what this distro does, then you can just CHOOSE NOT TO USE IT! Is that so tough? :)
easyLINUX ? (Score:1)
Who the hell do you think got the whole Free Software bandwagon rolling? RMS and the GNU community, the stuck-up morons who have joined forces with the Debian group to keep the spirit of Free and Open Software alive.
They don't believe in restrictive licenses, if you don't like that, get another distribution. There are plenty...